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June 9, 2020

#NewPodcast: Brand Land

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B2B Growth

In this episode of the #NewPodcast series, we share a part of the episode -

Finding the Nucleus of Your Brand with David Brier, Chief Gravity Defyer at DBD International.

David had some incredible insight on how to identify and isolate the nucleus of your brand.

They talk about:

How to avoid making superficial decisions Identifying red flags in your branding and what the brands the world admires have in common.

Each episode features an interview with an industry thought leader discussing topics such as brand consistency, customer experience, scaling design, brand templating, brand management, customer-centric content marketing, and in-house brand development.

Check out the new show in your favorite podcast player:

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Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.200 --> 00:00:09.630 Hey everyone, welcome back to the new podcast series. This is Kelsey cours 2 00:00:09.669 --> 00:00:13.070 with sweet fish media. This week I'm going to talk to you about a 3 00:00:13.230 --> 00:00:17.829 new podcast called brand land that we just launched for our friends over at loocid 4 00:00:17.910 --> 00:00:23.140 press. Brand land is a weekly podcast from marketers and creatives. The host 5 00:00:23.179 --> 00:00:28.140 of this podcast is Garrett Justice, head of marketing at loocid pressed. Each 6 00:00:28.179 --> 00:00:33.380 episode features an interview with an industry thought leader, discussing topics such as brand 7 00:00:33.460 --> 00:00:39.530 consistency, customer experience, scaling, design, brand templating, brand management, 8 00:00:39.609 --> 00:00:44.530 among so much more. Garrett and I also got to talk about how he 9 00:00:44.649 --> 00:00:48.329 is an official barbecue judge. If you think you'll find the show valuable, 10 00:00:48.369 --> 00:00:52.560 after you check out this quick snippit, just search brand land and apple podcast 11 00:00:52.679 --> 00:00:56.520 or your favorite podcast player makes you subscribe and if you really like it, 12 00:00:56.600 --> 00:00:59.759 don't forget to leave review. It's a great way to help people find new 13 00:00:59.840 --> 00:01:04.670 podcast content. Okay, let's jump into the SNIPPET. You have this background 14 00:01:04.870 --> 00:01:10.189 in branding and rebranding and you know, you said and beginning today, it's 15 00:01:10.230 --> 00:01:12.150 been forty years now you've been doing this and you work with so many different 16 00:01:12.150 --> 00:01:17.870 companies helping develop their brands and for the first time we're going through a rebrand 17 00:01:17.909 --> 00:01:22.340 and I know you've been able to see just firsthand things that either help companies 18 00:01:22.379 --> 00:01:26.420 become strong, consistent brands or, on the flip side, those things that 19 00:01:26.700 --> 00:01:30.900 might trip them up or prevent them from being able to do that. So, 20 00:01:30.180 --> 00:01:33.250 as we were talking about this little bit before the show, I love 21 00:01:33.370 --> 00:01:37.409 that you use the phrase overlooked gremlins as the things that kind of can trip 22 00:01:37.609 --> 00:01:40.370 brands up, you know. So on that note, just to dive in 23 00:01:40.450 --> 00:01:46.010 real quick to our topic, what's the most common overlooked Gremlin that really curples 24 00:01:46.090 --> 00:01:49.519 brands and prevents them from becoming strong and consistent? As you've worked with all 25 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:53.319 these companies over the years, what's that one overlook Gremlin that you've noticed most 26 00:01:53.319 --> 00:02:00.709 common? They actually lack really the core, fundamental what's our brand? What's 27 00:02:00.750 --> 00:02:04.989 our role in the world? Not, what are our features? Not? 28 00:02:05.310 --> 00:02:08.349 What are we selling? Not, Oh, here's the latest greatest product line 29 00:02:08.349 --> 00:02:14.389 right. No, it's like that's all an outcome of this thing that often 30 00:02:14.389 --> 00:02:17.740 times isn't articulated, which is what's the nucleus of our brand, what's our 31 00:02:17.780 --> 00:02:23.780 role in the world? Because if you lack that what ends up happening is 32 00:02:23.620 --> 00:02:28.419 you end up making cosmetic decisions. You end up making, Oh, let's 33 00:02:28.419 --> 00:02:32.129 do let's do a promotion to move product or move service, or let's do 34 00:02:32.169 --> 00:02:35.889 it this, so let's do it that. Then you wonder why nobody really 35 00:02:35.930 --> 00:02:38.050 knows exactly what your brand stands for. Because now, like, like, 36 00:02:38.169 --> 00:02:44.129 for example, with what you guys provide who businesses, allowing them to have 37 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:47.520 the consistency. You're never going to quite have the consistency if they're just coloring 38 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:53.360 by number or doing templates. Right, if they actually get oh, we're 39 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:58.199 about simplification or we're about, you know, a lean, mean answer to 40 00:02:58.590 --> 00:03:02.270 this problem, or here's what everybody else is doing, and they're really you 41 00:03:02.349 --> 00:03:07.349 know, their noisy or not organized or this or that, or they're very 42 00:03:07.469 --> 00:03:09.870 clunky and not smooth. And if you really go okay, here's a outer, 43 00:03:10.069 --> 00:03:14.419 the macro, and here's us, the micro, here's our role, 44 00:03:14.460 --> 00:03:16.979 and if you have that well articulated it, you can then now go through 45 00:03:17.020 --> 00:03:22.419 the motions because you get why you're doing it. So it doesn't just become 46 00:03:22.460 --> 00:03:27.139 a tactical implementation which your you have these incredible tools to do that. But 47 00:03:27.210 --> 00:03:30.330 if people don't get why are we doing it in the first place? Why 48 00:03:30.370 --> 00:03:32.969 are we doing this in this way? Because otherwise, if you don't have 49 00:03:34.090 --> 00:03:38.689 that ownership, mentally, it's always going to be someone else's idea or these 50 00:03:38.729 --> 00:03:42.719 are the rules that we have to follow, or this is the this is 51 00:03:42.759 --> 00:03:45.199 the color scheme, or these are the fonds and this is the bat and 52 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:49.120 that's the that, and it always remains someone else's idea, to the extent 53 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:51.639 that remains some melst idea. You have robots. You don't want robots, 54 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:54.240 you want people with initiative, on people with ownership, and that's why it 55 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:59.710 becomes this kind of like Gremlin that could literally eat your organization from the inside 56 00:03:59.870 --> 00:04:03.150 out, because you act clarity on what the nucleus is. Yeah, I 57 00:04:03.310 --> 00:04:05.990 love that. I mean we talked about this a little bit before in the 58 00:04:06.030 --> 00:04:10.340 past, but you know, for at loosen press, we have refreshed our 59 00:04:10.419 --> 00:04:13.419 brand recently. Wasn't a full rebrand, but we kind of refreshed it, 60 00:04:13.819 --> 00:04:16.019 you know, the last year. And you know what I love about going 61 00:04:16.100 --> 00:04:19.819 through that process again and just really tightening it up is you then have you 62 00:04:19.899 --> 00:04:24.810 have a yard stick to measure creative work against as you go forward. I 63 00:04:24.850 --> 00:04:27.649 think that's what's been so valuable. As you really tighten it up and you 64 00:04:27.649 --> 00:04:30.850 get everyone on the same page, then you it's not just you know, 65 00:04:30.129 --> 00:04:33.329 does this look good or not? And it's people's opinions, but you have 66 00:04:33.449 --> 00:04:36.050 this yard stick, something to compare against themself. Yeah, I love that. 67 00:04:36.810 --> 00:04:40.000 So so moving along a little bit, I mean I know you mentioned, 68 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:44.199 you know, the core fundamentals that really formed the nucleus of a brand. 69 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:47.959 What are some examples of core fundamentals for a lot of brands? Well, 70 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:54.189 it's really having why or why are we? You need to have a 71 00:04:54.269 --> 00:04:57.430 clear on the say why are we doing what we're doing? Why US versus 72 00:04:57.470 --> 00:05:01.509 anyone else? And surface answers. Use The answers such as well, we're 73 00:05:01.589 --> 00:05:05.550 better, we're cheaper, we have more bells and whistles than them. Those 74 00:05:05.589 --> 00:05:10.339 are very superficial. Those really having dug it's like, okay, great, 75 00:05:10.980 --> 00:05:14.379 that's a result of something here in the center of it all. Really, 76 00:05:14.420 --> 00:05:16.259 I say, what's the Dent we want to leave in the universe? And 77 00:05:16.620 --> 00:05:23.370 so it's getting really clear on that because and from there so much clarity goes 78 00:05:23.449 --> 00:05:27.250 to the organization. Everyone knows why they're doing what they're doing. Everyone is 79 00:05:27.370 --> 00:05:30.610 stands. These are why these are our colors, these are why we have 80 00:05:30.009 --> 00:05:33.410 the design, look and feel. This is why we have the vibe of 81 00:05:33.449 --> 00:05:41.199 the personality that we have, because it's to serve that nucleus. I can't 82 00:05:41.240 --> 00:05:45.279 wait to dive in and learn more about how this new podcast will help companies 83 00:05:45.319 --> 00:05:49.870 create brands of significance. Garrett is going to be a great and Hilarious podcast 84 00:05:49.990 --> 00:05:55.350 host. Again, just search brand land and apple podcast, or wherever you 85 00:05:55.470 --> 00:05:58.470 do. You're listening, subscribe, leaver of you if you like it, 86 00:05:58.589 --> 00:06:00.589 and don't forget to tell a friend. If you can, then enjoy it. 87 00:06:00.149 --> 00:06:03.779 Also, don't forget to ask Eara about how he is an official barbecue 88 00:06:03.779 --> 00:06:11.980 judge. It's a great story. I hate it when podcasts incessantly ask their 89 00:06:12.019 --> 00:06:15.420 listeners for reviews, but I get why they do it, because reviews are 90 00:06:15.579 --> 00:06:18.209 enormously helpful when you're trying to grow a podcast audience. So here's what we 91 00:06:18.250 --> 00:06:21.129 decided to do. 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