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Are you trying to establish your brand
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You're listening to be tob growth,
a daily podcast for B TOB leaders.
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We've interviewed names you've probably heard before, like Gary Vanner, truck and
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Simon Senek, but you've probably never
heard from the majority of our guests.
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That's because the bulk of our interviews
aren't with professional speakers and authors. Most
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of our guests are in the trenches
leading sales and marketing teams. They're implementing
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strategy, they're experimenting with tactics,
they're building the fastest growing BTB companies in
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the world. My name is James
Carberry. I'm the founder of sweet fish
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media, a podcast agency for BB
brands, and I'm also one of the
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CO hosts of this show. When
we're not interviewing sales and marketing leaders,
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you'll hear stories from behind the scenes
of our own business. Will share the
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ups and downs of our journey as
we attempt to take over the world.
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Just getting well, maybe let's get
into the show. Welcome back to be
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to be growth. I'm Logan lyles
with sweet fish media. I'm joined today
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by Natalie Lambert. She is the
Como over at instart and today is actually
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one of the first episodes in our
five things series. So we decided we
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wanted to have a little bit of
fun and create a resource that tied to
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one of our core values here at
sweet fish, which is never stopped learning,
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and we thought what better way to
do that than to pick the brains
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of the great be Tob marketers that
we've interviewed on the show and talk about
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some of the things that they can't
live without. So, Natalie, with
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that, we're going to be talking
about five things that you can't live without
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work and life. Today. I'm
excited to dive into this with you.
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I am too. Let's go awesome. So tell us what's number one?
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What can you not live without of
your top five things? Without a doubt,
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every single morning I have to start
my day with my Peloton. It
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is the best workout and boy is
it the best way for me to wake
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up get energy. Have instructors that
just play amazing music and just make you
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want to jump into your day.
I mean that that Peloton has probably been
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the best purchase, last wife decisive
lifestyle decision I ever made. I'm the
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biggest Peloton Junkie but again, you
know, I can feel the days that
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I don't use it because I'm just
I'm slower and the Peloton just gives me
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the energy I need every single morning
to get going. That's awesome. I
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love it. How long have you
been doing it? Have you found that
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it stuck with versus like other sorts
of workout routines or different things like that?
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Yeah, I've been going to the
gym forever, so it hasn't really
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increased my attempt to work out,
but I do it six or seven days.
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We probably way too much. I've
had the Peloton for over two years.
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I actually hit my hundredth ride tomorrow, which I'm really excited about.
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I'm more of a groupy than I
want to admit, but I have stuck
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with it and I've already convinced,
I think I've had six of my friends
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by Pelotons because I just I think
it's the best workout and nothing comes close
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and it's just fun to do.
There is they figured out how to game
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of FI everything. So no matter
what for poison is in terms of gaming,
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they get you hooked. I mean
even my husband does it, so
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that' says a lot. That's awesome. There's probably something for us to learn
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about it as marketers from that.
So number two on your top five things
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is actually something near and dear to
my heart, and that is making an
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easy to consume audio content. Tell
us about a couple of your five things
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here. Yeah, absolutely. I
have two APPS that sit on the front
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page of my iphone. It's overcast
and it's living. Between those two APPS
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I can get all of the content
that we all want to listen on these
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very long commutes to work. You
know, in the bay area you can
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be in the car for quite some
time and being able to pass the time
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quickly is really important. So for
the PODCAST, you know, I have
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certain podcast that to listen to every
morning, the daily, the daily show
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and recode. Absolutely love them and, you know, again a way to
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just make commutes so seemingly disappear in
my head. And then I also love
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Libby. I don't know how many
people know of Livvy, but it's an
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application that connects to your local library
so you can actually check out all of
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the the free audio books that and
I and they also have to be fair.
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Not Audio, I believe, but
all of the free audio books that
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you would like. And so I
go back and forth between a Business Book
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and then a fun book, but
again that way to make the commute kind
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of disappear while listening and learning a
lot of great things along the way.
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I love it absolutely. So number
three for you is something that you taught
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me about in Gmail just as we
were chatting offline. Tell us about number
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three on your top five things.
So I move way too fast, but
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yet I'm one of the most detail
oriented people you meet, and sometimes that
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comes from a crashing haltwhen sending email
and trying to move quickly and and moving
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too quickly to be detail oriented.
What I have found is there is a
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setting in Gmail that basically gives you
a fifteen seconds delay in any send of
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an email. And so what happens
is when you write your email and send,
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that's a and about other people,
that's when I see my mistake.
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I don't see it until the send
button has been pushed, and so what
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this does is actually won't send any
email for fifteen seconds. So I probably
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five to ten times a day,
see that undo and I'm able to go
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back in and edit my email.
But as a marketer, with communication being
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my role and my job, I
can't have me take mistakes. I can't
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set that standard, and so making
sure that I always have that ability to
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pull it back and make the edits
I need is a lifesaver for me.
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I love that. I am like
King of Gmail extensions, like every email
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enablement tool you can have. I
use boomerang for follow ups, I use
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bombomb for sending videos, I have
my hub spot sidebar open all the time,
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those sorts of things. I've used
the schedules send. I've even posted
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on linkedin about, you know,
using this snooze feature for things that you
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might not think about within Gmail,
but this is something that you taught me.
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So so for folks who are,
you know, finding themselves at that
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collision point of working fast and being
detail oriented or just the Oh no,
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I just hit send and they notice
something, this is not something that,
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like you, you pick per email
you send. It's a default setting you
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can change and they it gives you
an undo button once you hit send that
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sits there for up to fifteen seconds. Right that's exactly right. So it's
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in settings. You're just delaying email. I think fifteen seconds is the longest.
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I'm not a hundred percent ture on
that, but literally the minute you
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set hits and it just sits in
the bottom undo sits there until you're fifteen
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seconds comes up and it's as I
said, I don't like to admit how
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often it's used, but it's a
lifesaver. I love that. Awesome.
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So number four is something that's part
of your daytoday, life as a marketing
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leader. Tell us about number four
on your top five things. Yeah,
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so for folks who have distributed teams, video conferencing is is yet another life
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changing you talked about. This is
a five essential things. These are my
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five things that I cannot live without. But video conferencing is so important for
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managing and distributed team, especially when
you've got team members that you see maybe
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once a year because you know they're
in a different country or something like that.
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Video conferencing is something that I require
every single meeting that the marketing team
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has to do. So not a
single meeting can go out if there is
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not a zoom link or a hangouts
link or whatever the case may be.
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But I want, no matter what
office you're in, every single employee to
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be having these facetoface conversations feeling like
they're they're feeling like they're part of it,
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because it's the way we commit to
a remote environment where we can all
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be successful. And so, you
know, I have a great story where,
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you know, when I finally met
my prog team with a few years
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ago and we'd actually been working together
for a year but never actually met,
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we, I think all of us
were like, this is going to be
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weird, we don't know each other, and it was as if nothing changed,
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because we sit there and have facetoface
meetings every single day and I don't
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think people realize just how valuable that
is to bring that those type of conversations
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to the front. Yeah, I
was really surprised the other day one of
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my good friends and customer of ours, Ethan, viewed over at bombomb.
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He hosts the customer experience podcast and
he he had author and Speaker Vanessa Van
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Edwards on the podcast talking about research
that she looked into for her book captivate
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that, you know, when we
when we shake hands, when we have
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physical touch with other human beings,
dopamine is released in our brain and they
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there were some research that was called
out in that book that, yes,
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looking and making eye contact, even
over a video, even though it's not
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necessarily eye contact. I'm looking into
the Webcam, you're looking at any Webcam,
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but we can, we can see
each other. Yes, there is
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dopening that's that's released and being part
of a fully remote, distributed team and
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as we've been encouraging more people to
always have video on and those sorts of
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things, I can tell you I've
been in similar situations where we meet in
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real life and it's like it's not
as big of a jump if we hadn't
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been used to being on video chat
all the time. Whether you zoom or
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Google hangouts or you know, there's
a there's a number of different tools you
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can use, but turn the video
on would be my recommendation for folks to
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echo what you're saying. They're awesome. So number five for you is actually
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in the area of managing your life, your profiles and all your different passwords
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that they were all dealing with.
Tell us about something that has kind of
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changed your world lately here as we
round out your five things. Natalie,
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sure, so. I think all
of us have been told, you know,
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make sure you have different, strong
password for everything you do, and
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we all kind of nod our head
and say yes and move on and keep
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all our saying passwords for everything.
We all probably gotten the emails F from
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a retailer or a bank or something
talking about please change your password. We
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had some type of reach. I
was I was just as guilty as everyone
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else. And then I came to
work for a Web Security Company and I
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actually got to see just how easy
it is to get your credentials and too,
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for attackers to get access to this
information. And it was probably within
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a month after I started here that
I went home and I was telling my
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husband that we're done, we can't
do this anymore. You know, our
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our information is too widely out there. So we want with a product called
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one password. There I think you
mentioned you have last pass and things like
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that. There are much bunch of
different programs that do this, but it's
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that idea of having a strong,
different password for everything that you have and
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quite frankly, I don't even know
my password. One Password manages the whole
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thing. Yeah, that the benefit
I get. So not only did I
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get the added security, which is
great, but we all want to how
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does this make my life easier?
You know that. I'm sure everyone here
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has passwords that they share with people. You know my husband are on the
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same netflix account. You know,
there's just things that you want to share
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these passwords with, and if I'm
changing a password because something has happened,
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he doesn't have it and it's totally
crazy. Yeah, also enables you to
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share the passwords that you want to
share with different people so that they just
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go to a portal, click the
button and everything gets auto filled. So
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now every single thing in our life
has the different passwords, some of which
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are shared, some of which are
not, and I can now rest at
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night knowing that all the things that
I write about on a day to day
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basis are going to happen to me, or at least I won't be caught
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off guard like everyone else. Yeah, yeah, for every lock there's there's
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someone who's going to try and pick
that lock, but you can always put
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a stronger lock on, which is
what I've done as well, and some
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of those things that you know not
only just make you more secure but make
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life easier. I use last pass
for some of that. It sounds like
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one password is very similar. You
can even store, you know, payment
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methods and those sorts of things to
auto fill. It's not just a security
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thing, it's, you know,
and ease of use thing. So I
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love that. will put links to
all of your top five things in the
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show notes for folks, Natalie.
Just so everybody knows, these are not
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affiliate thanks. We're not trying to
do sponsored promos. Natalie's not. We're
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not here at sweet fish, but
we just talked to so many smart people
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just like you, Natalie, that
we're building this community here on bb growth
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and one of our core values at
sweet fish being never stopped learning. Thought
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man, let's create an outlet for
us to share some of the things that
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are helping either make our lives easier, make us more healthy, make us
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more productive at work. And you've
kind of covered all of those different areas.
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So your pellet on bike, the
overcast APP for podcast listening, which
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I've been familiar with, but libby, I was not. I'm definitely going
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to take that one away from this
conversation. The fifteen second the lad said
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in in Gmail. I love that
in your stories behind it. Turning on
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video, whether you zoom or Google, hangouts, whatever, and one password,
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Natalie. This was has been a
ton of fun. Thank you so
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much for kicking off this new series
with us. Thanks so much, Legend.
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