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A relationship with the right referral partner
could be a game changer for any be
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to be company. So what if
you could reverse engineer these relationships at a
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moment's notice, start a podcast,
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faster than ever? Learn more. At
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Sweet Fish Mediacom you're listening to be
tob growth, a daily podcast for B
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TOB leaders. We've interviewed names you've
probably heard before, like Gary Vander truck
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and Simon Senek, but you've probably
never heard from the majority of our guests.
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That's because the bulk of our interviews
aren't with professional speakers and authors.
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Most of our guests are in the
trenches leading sales and marketing teams. They're
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implementing strategy, they're experimenting with tactics, they're building the fastest growing be tob
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companies in the world. My name
is James Carberry on, the founder of
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sweet fish media, a podcast agency
for bb brands, and I'm also one
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of the CO hosts of this show. When we're not interviewing sales and marketing
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leaders, you'll hear stories from behind
the scenes of our own business, will
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share the ups and downs of our
journey as we attempt to take over the
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world. Just getting well? Maybe
let's get into the show. This episode
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is about some thing that I got
tired of, so I went and got
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some feedback. I think you're probably
tired of the same thing. My name
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is Ethan Butte and the host of
the customer experience podcast and cohost of the
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CX series on BB growth. And
here was my issue. This is a
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Linkedin Post that I'm going to read
to you that I published and Got Sixteenzero
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views and counting, hundred and twenty
plus comments and counting, and forty plus
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reactions and counting. Honest question,
when you accept a linkedin connection request in
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the person immediately hits you up with
an unsolicited and irrelevant sales pitch in a
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direct message. What do you do? And I got a lot of answers,
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again, more than a hundred and
twenty comments and counting, before I
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share several things that I learned.
Here's the set up here. I believe
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that customer experience is the single most
important thing that you can do today,
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working on creating and delivering a better
experience for your customers. It is the
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differentiator of Your Business and it's comprised
of every single touch point. So when
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you think about the sales people in
your organization and some of those touches that
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your Bizdev people and your salespeople are
making, probably and linkedin probably with connection
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requests, probably with direct messages,
this is very often the first touch that
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one of your future customers is getting. It has a slightly outsized impact on
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the reputation of you and your company
and the expectations you're setting for your customers,
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in your future customers, about who
you are, what you're about and
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how you operate. And so if
your sales team is doing this, I've
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got some bad news for you.
I went in and soft scored all those
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comments again, a hundred and twenty
plus and counting, and the number one
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response was I immediately disconnect from the
person. I kill the connection I just
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accepted. That's twenty eight percent of
the responses, twenty seven point six to
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be exact. Twenty three point seven
percent of people simply ignore the message.
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So here we are already at more
than fifty percent of the responses ignoring the
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message or, worse, ignoring the
message and actively disconnecting from the connection they
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just made with you or your salesperson. Some people do choose to engage,
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so I scored the engagements as positive, negative or neutral. The third most
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popular response from people who commented on
this post. Seventeen point one percent engaged
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in a neutral way with the message. This was a thanks, but no
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thanks type of thing right. Neutral
it's not I want to learn more.
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It's not negative, which will get
into shortly. It's just a neutral,
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courteous response, but with no real
potential to move forward. Next, in
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fourth place, ten and a half
percent of people deleted the message or archive
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the message, so a further step
from ignoring it. And, by the
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way, I tend to just ignore
these messages. If I rule through all
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of my linkedin message wages, there
are a bunch of these messages in there.
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I don't actively delete them, although
these responses in the conversations on this
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post made me think that I should
probably go that extra step of deleting them.
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Next, and this was one of
the more interesting findings, people were
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equally likely, if they were to
engage, they were equally likely to engage
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in a positive way and a negative
way. About eight percent of people said
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each positive responses. Thanks for reaching
out. I'd like to learn more or
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thanks for reaching out. I would
advise you that this maybe isn't the best
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approach, but I'm interested in what
you're sharing, right. So some level
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of active engagement that would produce a
conversation, but there was also an equal
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amount of negative engagement, which is
who do you think you are? Do
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you actually get business this way?
This is an immediate turnoff. I would
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never do business with someone that open
the conversation this way. So the caution
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here, of course, is that
while you may get some engagement, it's
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more than twice as likely to be
neutral as is to be positive or negative,
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and it's equally likely to be negative
as it is positive. And then,
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finally, the most aggressive thing,
block the person and mark the message
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as spam. So a few things
we can learn here. First, people
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tend to be able to read these
from a mile away. One quote from
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one of the comments, you can
tell in the first few words, dot
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dot, dot right. So if
you're using this style of communication in your
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direct messages after connecting with somebody,
we can all kind of see it,
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smell it, feel it. It's
popular enough now, it's common enough now
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and it's in such volume that we
see it right away. So even if
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you are a sincere person, even
if you do have an actual valuable message,
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you need to make sure it doesn't
look or smell like all the other
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messages. So take a look at
the unsolicited messages you're getting and do something
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different. Second, these are generally
not welcome. People are much more likely
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to ignore or disconnect from you as
they are to engage with you, even
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in a neutral way. So this
probably isn't the best way to go forward.
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Something that I read in a lot
of the comments that they prefer that
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people engage with them on their posts
and actually produce some level of reciprocity,
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a basic level of connection, before
showing up in the direct message box and
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communicating there, especially with a direct
and hardcore sales pitch. Third, you're
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equally likely to get a positive response
as you are a negative response, and
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some of the negative responses were quite
funny, in the kind of passive aggressive
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category right. Some people even offered
to subscribe them to things that they didn't
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ask to be subscribed to by going
to their profile grabbing the email address.
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So some of it was like super
aggressive negative engagement, which doesn't do anyone
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any good? Fourth, mutual engagement
is double the rate of positive or negative
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kind of that. Thanks, but
no thanks. And I will say fifth,
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some people do read and evaluate the
message. Some of these fell into
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that neutral category. They might actually
judge this. So even if it does
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get ignored and they don't reply,
that doesn't mean people aren't reading the message,
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and this shouldn't come as any surprise
to anyone listening. What they're looking
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for is personalization. You know who
I am, you know who I work
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for, and not just in a
slug my name in kind of way you
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can imagine. Or you actually identified
specific problems or pain points that I might
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have and you have an actual solution
that can specifically address these things. And
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the more you can communicate that in
a unique way, the better off you
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are at getting those people who are
actively ignoring the message but evaluated it prior
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to ignoring it to engage with you
in a positive way. Sixth, and
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finally, hear the last lesson,
there's a clear escalation trend in scoring these.
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Some people got scored in three categories. So they say, you know,
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initially I'll read the message, then
I will ignore it. If they
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persist, I will disconnect or if
they persist, I will mark them as
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spam or if they persist, I'll
get very aggressive with them. So the
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more you persist in something that is
not responded to in a favorable way,
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the more likely you are a to
make someone angry and be get an escalated
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level of response from ignore to disconnect
to block. So just because other people
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are doing something doesn't mean you should
do it. Just because a lot of
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people don't like it doesn't mean that
it can't be done successfully. The goal,
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of course, is to reach out, understand people, let them know
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that you see them, hear them
and understand them and work to create a
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real relationship based around a real problem
in a real opportunity. I hope you
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found that valuable. If you want
to check the post out again, my
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name is Ethan Butt. I host
the customer experience podcast. If we can
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find me on Linkedin, etch an
last name is beute. I welcome that
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connection, especial if you add a
personal note to it, and I look
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forward to any feedback you want to
add on that post or on anything that
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I have to share their I look
forward to connecting with you on Linkedin.
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