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Hey, this is James, the
founder of sweet fish media. If you've
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listened to me to be growth for
a while, you probably have an idea
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of what we're passionate about. Loving
people really well, a constant pursuit of
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learning and inspiring people to own their
careers. With all the craziness happening with
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this virus, we are incredibly fortunate
to be in the business of podcasting.
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So many BB brands are looking for
alternatives to their inperson events that are being
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canceled, and our business is growing
as a result. Please don't miss hear
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me on this, because I'm not
saying this to Brag. It is heartbreaking
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the economic impact this is having on
so many businesses. But being in the
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business of podcasting, the demand for
what we do has increased and because of
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that we're looking to hire really talented
people to help us serve that demand.
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So if you like what we're all
about it sweet fish and you're looking for
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a great career opportunity, hit us
up. There's a link in the show
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notes where you can apply today.
I'm really looking forward to meeting you.
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Welcome back to be to be growth. I'm looking lyles with sweet fish media.
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Today is another episode in our behind
the curtain series. As usual in
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this series, I'm joined by my
good Buddy James Carberry. James, how
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you doing today? Man? I
am doing well and I'm humped because we
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are going to be talking about something
that we just did actually, as we're
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recording this. We just did this
a few days ago. We did our
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very first customer mastermind, which is
our version of a virtual customer event,
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and we're going to be talking to
this episode about why we decided to do
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it how we did it. We
pulled off relatively quickly. I mean within
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I think a week of having the
idea. Pretty Darn close. Yeah,
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we had that, we have the
email sent and and how all the kind
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of the tech set up to be
able to do it and it turned out
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really well. I was really excited
about how it all came out. So
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so we're going to be talking about
that in this episode and hopefully it's a
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lot of value for you guys.
Yeah, absolutely, and I think you
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know, just in general we talked
about I mean one of our core values
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is love people well and and a
lot of that is our team and our
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customers, and so we're big believers
and building stronger relationships with your team,
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with your customers. We just did
the episode about, you know, turning
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prospects in into friends, right and
I think part of why we wanted to
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do that was just leaning into to
that core value, but also kind of
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speak to what led us up to
why we wanted to do this right now.
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Obviously, the decision for a virtual
event was was made for us,
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but let's talk about that and we'll
dive into the how, how we pulled
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it off very quickly and how we're
planning on using it. Well, we'll
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get into some of that that others
can replicate. Yeah, so we did
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one of these in person last year
in Orlando. So we had I think
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three or four clients fly into Orlando
and we just did a really a two
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day deep dive on bb podcasting best
practices, how to host interviews, how
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to prep for interviews, you know, all the content hip planned. We
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had some of some of the folks
that were local here in Orlando that were
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our customers or friends of ours came
into so we had seven, eight,
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nine folks that were kind of in
the living room talking through this. We
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werented a house and in Orlando and
and really really cool environment and coming out
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of that I just thought, man, that was incredible, but it was
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also a Gargangean task to undertake.
I mean it's two or three days figuring
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out food and Housing and air fare
and just the timing of all of it.
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So when all of this started happening
and we were kind of leaning toward
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doing it in person, and then
are another one in person. But you
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know, I wasn't super excited about
doing that because of all the work that
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went in, but was also bummed
because I knew how much fun the last
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one was. So when all this
stuff, when all this craziness started happening,
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we're just like me. And what
if we did it virtually and and
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what if we stayed consistent with it
and did it once a month? So
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we just we just did this first
one and within yeah, like, like
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I said earlier, I think within
like a week, put up a google
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form, took all the customer information
out of our our email marketing tool.
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We used drip right now or about
to switch over to infusion soft and and
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we sent out an email to all
of our customers and basically said Hey,
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we're doing this, we're doing this
event. You know, fill up this
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quick little form if you want to
be a part of it, and it
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really cool the insights that we got
from that form. We just had to
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give us our name and their email
and then we let him know what the
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topic was going to be. But
we said, hey, if there's a
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topic that you want to cover in
the future, let us know here.
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So that's going to give us insight
on what are our customers actually wanting to
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learn more about, and maybe we
know a thing or two about it,
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maybe we don't, but I just
thought, man, from a especially with
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all this stuff going on, but
even even with coronavirus not happening, you
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always hear people saying, you know, it's the company that's closest to their
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customers that wins, and I had
just felt, as the founder, that
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I was getting increasingly more disconnected from
our customers. You know, you run
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sales, Isabelle and bill are running
customer experience and operations. Are Producers.
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are kind of the face of our
business to our customers, you know,
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and because I'm not doing a lot
of be to be growth in interviews,
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I just started starting getting farther and
farther away from our customers and and I
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thought that this would be a really
cool way for me to inject myself back
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into relationship with our customers, add
value by the things that we're learning across
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the seventy or eighty shows that were
producing, and also it would be a
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way for us to create evergreen content
that can be used for new customers.
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So for the customers that we get
six months from now, this video that
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we just recorded on how to plan
episode topics that your audience is actually want
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to hear. Well, that was
super helpful this week when we recorded it
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for our customers, but it's also
going to be helpful six months from now
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whenever a new customer comes on board
and we show them the Bank of,
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you know, the six customer master
minds that we've done up until you know,
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up until that point. That's going
to be valuable content for somebody that's
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just getting into podcasting and getting started. So so lots of different reasons why
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we did it and I'm really glad
that we did. Yeah, absolutely to
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kind of, you know, speak
to the how and, you know,
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compare that to the in person mastermind
group. I mean the benefit last year,
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besides getting together and being able to
play many golf and build relationships with
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customers the donuts. We're definitely high
up there. But since we did it
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virtually this time, I couldn't burn
the Bacon like I did last mart so
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there's pros and cons, is is
what we're saying. But just like to
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give folks a little bit of Peek
behind the curtain. Like you and I,
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James, talk a lot about how, you know, setting up a
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lot of technical stuff and making sure
that the operations in the different tools kind
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of connect together. It's not something
that brings you a ton of joy,
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I put it lightly right to put
it on the understanding of this country.
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It makes you want to pull what
the little hair I have left, the
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the extrovert, the people person who, just like I, just want to
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have conversations with people and move it
forward. And also, if you've been
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following along with us for a while, obviously podcasting is our primary medium.
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We have never done a lot of
weapon our so we've never done a weapon
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are. We've done, you know, two big virtual events that were a
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huge undertaking, and so part of
this was like in our mind, as
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you and I were talking about,
like how we going to pull this off,
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as it going to take a lot, like all these reasons why are
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good, but maybe there's some reasons
why not. And, as you said,
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I think encouragement for folks that are
maybe a smaller team or maybe you
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know someone else needs to pull this
together quickly that doesn't have the full resources
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of their of their team that does
run their webinars or typical virtual events.
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Google form, some Zappier integrations and
a zoom account is literally all that we
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did. And then pulling contacts from
from our database, whatever crm or marketing
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automation tool you use. It can
be easier than then you think to pull
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off these sort of small virtual events, just like we see some folks doing
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with, you know, happy hours
where you dressed from the wayte up right
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now and all that good. One
one thing, Logan on, one thing
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that I learned through this process.
So we use zoom to do the call.
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So I just got to you know, I don't even have a zoom
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count because I usually use Google hangouts, but I got a fifteen dollars whom
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account and I sent the email using
drip. And then there is a Zappier
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integration, and so you can set
up Zapp your integration. It's between a
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calendar appointment. So we just created
a calendar appointment for when the customer mastermind
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was going to be and then you
can automatically, you can you can trigger
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a google form submission, so whenever
someone enters the their information on a google
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form, that you can have a
Zappier integration that connects that form submission to
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being invited to the calendar invitation,
and that's that's something that I learned from
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Zach o'bron over it scribe, because
they recently did this for one of their
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customers, where a customer there's they're
the ones that helped be get that book
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content based networking written, and so
I saw that they did it. So
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I resound and I was like,
Hey, how did you do that?
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And so that Zapp of your integration
was super helpful and for a lot of
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people listening to this one be like, Duh, life, of course that's
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that's how you do that, but
I had no clue and in it was
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super helpful. They just filled out
the google form and then automatically got an
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invite to the calendar, to the
calendar event, and then we just notified
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everyone leading up to the event.
So like an hour before the event started,
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we just send an email to everybody
that had rsvpd to the event and
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said Hey, here's the zoom link. If you don't, you know,
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if you don't see it in a
counter invite, excited to see in an
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hour, and we ended up having
a really good turnout. Yeah, the
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other thing that I think you did
really well, because you're not going to
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give yourself a pat on the back
here, but one thing that I know
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about you as you were just a
an amazing copywriter, especially with subject lines.
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We talked before about how you incorporated
that subject line of I wanted to
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punch a raccoon or hunching a coon
right around the book launch. In this
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one the subject line is so everyone
knows was I screwed up and you know
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it. Telling the story about like
how great it was to do a customer
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mastermind in person last year and we
haven't done one since. But literally,
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you know, we had people on
the team who saw that that email go
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out, and I think it was
Kelsey, our creative director, was like
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opened it right away, like Oh, wait, what is? What is
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James Apologizing for getting? Ready to
tell you like no, no big deal
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or whatever. Like think through those
sorts of things, because everybody's moving virtual
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events and doing them in some former
fashion, whether it's a big event like
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adobe summit going virtual or something like
that, where these sort of small,
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intimate groups still you gotta think about
how do you communicate that? Even with
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your current customer base where you're going
to have a high open rate, high
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reply rate, that sort of stuff, you still want to think about that
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copy so that you still increase that. Maybe it's a thirty percent open or
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reply rate and moving that to forty
five or whatever the case is. So
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just an example. They're for folks
to think about that. You brought that
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up because I thought being thoughtful with
your copy is so important. I mean,
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I included a picture of me,
you and Ryan at the event with
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those massive donuts that we got at
the event and you know, just did
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some you know circling of you know, because you looked like you were just
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waking up. Ryan looked way too
excited and then like and obviously circle donuts
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was like this was pure glory or
something like that. So just being like
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not feeling like you have to be
so stuffy in your communication. You know,
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I don't know how much of a
role that played in folks wanting to
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be on on this mastermind call that
we did, but I certainly got to
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believe it played some part. Yeah, absolutely, Man. And then,
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you know, you talked a little
bit about how we structured it. We
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prepared some content. We just lined
out, you know, quickly, what
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I was going to cover, what
you are going to cover and all that
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sort of stuff. And then I
think it's worth spending a little bit of
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time talking about how you can make
sure that you repurpose this. We recorded
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it, obviously, so that anyone
who signed up could go back to it.
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Also, we kind of got very
technical on Seo Research and planning,
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and so we knew that we threw
a lot of stuff at people in an
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hour, so we wanted to make
sure they could go back to it.
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So we sent them the recording right
right afterwards, which, you know,
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a lot of people have baked into
their webinar process. But if you're doing
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these sort of things on the fly
or on the side of kind of your
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normalm with webinars or virtual events,
it just might not be something that's that's
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top of mine for you. The
other thing that I'm excited about is,
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like you said, that as we
start to build this library, we now
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have ever grain content that during the
sales process I can say, Hey,
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we host a monthly mastermind class for
our customers. Now, maybe you're going
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to become a customer next month,
but we've done eight of these. Once
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you become a customer, you have
access to not only your producer and our
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team, which obviously I'm going to
I'm going to talk up, but you
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benefit from being a part of this
community and the collective knowledge, and I
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think that demonstrates your expertise, it
demonstrates your willingness to to add value in
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a lot of ways and it it
up levels the value of your offering,
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because it's not just the service that
you're providing, it's the knowledge, it's
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the ecosystem that they get to join
you and speak to them. Yeah,
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and and and it's the community,
right. I mean like so for us,
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for example, so we're working with
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of mid market be tob tech companies, a lot of SASS companies that are
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all doing podcasting and we're learning from
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content that you and I are sharing. For example, on this on this
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call, we've got somebody that we
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sales engagement podcast and then we also
produce the salesaccer podcast. And the
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Guy From salesacker that you Colin,
he runs marketing over there, salesacer.
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He was on the call and the
Dude we love calling right, if you're
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listening to this college, yeah,
well, go ahead. But he was
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able to jump in. As you
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a very well known entity, media
property in the BB sales space,
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and he was able to share some
insights on what they're doing and how they
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got to where. You know where
they are, what their process is.
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So and just think in addition to
the collective knowledge, it's the community right
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and being able to now, you
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know who Colin was, but he's
on that call with with Colin, we
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had everybody connect with each other on
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for everybody to show up to the
zoom call. Just hey, pop your
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linkedin url into the end of the
chat and then from there, you know,
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we everybody got connected. So now
the relations were forging, these relationships.
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call, you can reach back out
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they write you know, down the
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community element was was super exciting as
well. It comes back to content based
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networking. Baby. I mean you
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offer a content collaboration with people that
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content collaboration to deepen the relationships,
to be that connector. There was an
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interview you did so far back in
the BB growth feet about being a super
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connector and one of the things that
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with the author that you were interviewing
was that when you connect people, there's
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value in the relationship, even if
you're not delivering the value right and so,
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you know, there was an example
of another customer who was on that
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call who's actually moving on to a
new organization and he was really intrigued about
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how we manage the writing process for
the Seo Focus blog post, that a
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company, the podcast episodes, and
so he wanted to follow up with a
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member of our team. I started
a group text real quick and just said
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Hey, you know, he'd like
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you guys take it from here and
made that made that connection to another member
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of our team. That could also
happen between, you know, to customers
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them connecting on Linkedin. I definitely
thank you for doing this sort of thing.
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You should do, like James just
said, have everybody dropped their linkedin
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profile into the chat and encourage people
to connect. Great Way to make it
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easy for that sense of community,
because you kind of assumed that it might
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happen. But if you can do
some things to remove the barriers and ease
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the friction, then you're going to
be that that super connector man. Other
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one of the things I saw salesaccer
do on a Webinar that I was a
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guest on a few weeks ago,
few weeks prior, is they have everybody
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put the city that they're in,
and so it was cool because we were,
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you know, we you could see
like, oh, there's three other
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people from Austin, and it's it's
just a way to get people engaged in
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the chat and also, you know, helping make some offline connections as well.
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And so obviously I knew nobody was
going to be trying to meet up
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anytime soon. So instead of doing
city names, we decided to go at
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linked in URL's like that's going to
be super helpful. One of the guys
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from, you know, from our
team that's leading this effort for us,
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was able to connect with one of
our customers who reached out to him on
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linkedin shortly after the calls. So
this is really cool. There's lots of
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upside to organizing these customer events and
if anyone listening to this as any questions
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about how we did it. More
at want more explanation on why we did
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it, the structure format, anything
like that, reach out to logan or
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eye on Linkedin. We'd be happy
to walk through and a more in more
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detail how we pulled this thing off. Yep, absolutely feel free to email
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or connect with us on Linkedin.
I'm Logan at sweetphish MEDIACOM. James is
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James At sweetphish Mediacom, happy to
answer any questions or speak to anything else.
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Tactically that we were able to pull
off. James was the technical mastermind,
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even though he hates the the technical
side of things, but we just
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we had a lot of fun too, and we just want to encourage people
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get your customers together. Virtually.
There's so many benefits that come with it
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and hopefully you can take some of
these little things that we were able to
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implement fairly quickly and use them in
your your own scenario. So, as
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