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Welcome back to be tob growth.
I'm Logan lyles with sweet fish media.
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Today I'm joined by Matt Read.
He is the chief marketing officer over at
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easy texting. Matt, welcome to
the show. How's it going today,
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sir, going well. Thanks for
having me. Absolutely Matt. We're going
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to be talking about a digital channel
that's probably only increasing in importance for B
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tob marketers today and that's that's texting. It's the platform that you guys specialize
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in over at easy texting. We're
going to be talking about you know why
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you should be looking at using this
channel and be to be marketing and some
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dues and don'ts if you are exploring
this new channel, this new medium for
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your brand, what are some things
that you should avoid doing, some of
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the common pitfalls and some of the
things you want to keep in mind as
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you do approach a new channel to
engage with your prospects, in your customers?
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Matt, for a little bit of
context why you're the guy talking about
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this today. Give us a little
bit of background on yourself and what you
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in the easy texting team or up
to these days. Sure. So,
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I'm Matt Read, I'm CMO at
easy texting. I've been with a company
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for about a year and a half. Background for the past decade or so
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certainly been within the in the marketing
realm, running marketing programs for some companies
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I'm sure that you've heard of,
and super excited to take the opportunity here
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at easy texting. Obviously we're all
texting every day and it's not something that's
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going away and so be able to
provide that channel to businesses and cvry they
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get from texting is a it's a
pretty amazing opportunity for us to be in
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this growth market. Yeah, I
love it. James and I were just
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doing in the episode the other day
about turning prospects and customers into friends and
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and top of my list was moving
conversations to texting in a one to one
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basis. But there are a lot
of things that I think we're going to
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talk about here in the why why. BB Marketer should be thinking about the
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channel that we're applable in our conversation, about when the one texting, as
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much as engaging your community in general
in more of a mass approach. So,
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Matt, we're going to be talking
a little bit about the how,
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as we always try to do on
the show, but let's kick it off
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with a little bit of the why. What are some of the trends you
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guys are seeing in texting as a
platform and specifically as it applies to be
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to be marketers? Sure so.
I'm not sure I have to get into
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the the use really of texting in
our everyday lives. All of us are
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texting our friends and family and some
businesses, although about half of us try
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to text a business and are unable
to do so there's no reply, and
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so for the consumer world, obviously
texting is prevalent. For the business world
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it's somewhat of a new concept to
be able to incorporate text marketing into dedicated
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campaigns or integrating them into some campaign
in order to really mobilize and action,
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and so we're sitting that in a
lot of the activities that our customers are
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doing across a variety different verticals.
The great thing about texting is it isn't
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specific to any type of use case
or vertical. We see retail, schools,
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government, education, real estate,
churches doing everything from promotions, notifications
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alerts. We see many of our
customers text enabling their landline so that consumers
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when they text in, they can
provide support and or use that of landline
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phone number. It's frictionally been obviously
for phone calls as a lead source to
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them. So some of the things
that we're seeing our customers do with regard
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to how to incorporate texting, because
it is somewhat of a new concept,
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is to ensure that, you know, you only have so many characters in
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a text message, so you want
to be super clear, succinct with what
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you're trying to get across and also
make it very actionable. So a lot
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of our consumer a lot of our
businesses want to make sure that consumers aren't
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inundated with unnecessary text messages. Yeah, that's succinct thing. I imagine.
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It cannot be overstated. As you
guys are consulting with your customers, it's
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almost like you got to get them
in this frame of mind of you know,
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would you text this to a friend? Not necessarily in the content because
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it's going to be a different direction, but how can you keep this as
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the sinct as something that you would
type out with your thumbs and some of
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the advice that you're giving folks there
right. Absolutely, and I guess that
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the pro and the coin of,
you know, text messaging is that you
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know, yes, it's an amazing
platform that has extremely high engage rates.
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We're talking like ninety eight percent engagement
rates right right in any other channel with
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a marketing you just don't get that
kind of response. But you've got to
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be very careful. You cannot overuse
the channel. Remember that people are opting
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in to hear you, they're opting
into your promotions, they're opting into your
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alerts and notifications, and so,
therefore it's quite the relationship that you built
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with someone's direct personal device and you've
got to be careful because now it's an
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extremely trusted relationship, and so you
can't overdo it. They've asked for information.
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Thesa saying to be actionable. Don't
give people f left they don't need
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or want. I love that.
So talking about being careful with this channel
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in it not wanting to violate that
trust that you've been given in a very
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what I would call intimate medium of
texting, right, because usually it's you're
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texting your mom, your spouse,
your friends, maybe your kids, depending
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on you know what age they are. One of the areas you do want
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to keep in mind is is compliance
here. Tell us a little bit about
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some of the things maybe be to
be marketers who are listening to this have
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not explored texting for their brand and
they don't even know necessarily where to start
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thinking about compliance here, as we've
all been, you know, looking at
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compliance readily when it comes to email
over the last year plus. Yeah,
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IT'S A it's a super important concept
within the text marketing arena and and that
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is it. You know, if
you deploy text marketing campaign, you don't
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all of a sudden get to start
texting all of the contacts within your email
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database. As an example, uple
this is an opt in service. We've
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got to be a hundred percent compliant. We're connected with all of the major
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carriers in the US and Canada to
ensure that, you know, we're a
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hundred percent spam free. And as
a marketer, you have to create that
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opt in list and and there's a
variety of ways to do it, of
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course, and we support all those
ways, but but we are pretty diligent
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about ensuring that as a business,
you're texting individuals because of that relationship is
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so important and so trusted that that
the OPT in list you're creating is valid,
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and so we oftentimes want to ensure
that any list are uploaded to our
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to our system, are one hundred
percent compliant before that first initial message goes
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out to those consumers. Yeah,
I can applaud that that effort in that
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stands from you guys enough. You
mentioned their matt a variety of different ways
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to create your optend list to create
the opportunity for that opt in. I
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imagine you know I'm working with a
lot of brands that you guys. Do
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you see them using a lot of
strategies for that opt in? Can you
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give us some some clues as to
some of the Best Strategies for creating a
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compliant opt in list, but creating
one that is a fairly frictionless process for
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the folks that that would want to
opt in? Any any advice, therefore,
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folks, in making that a compliant
but a friction free process to ensure
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you start off with as many people
as you can as you go for this
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channel and people that actually do want
to hear from you. Sure one of
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the things are businesses are really using
as keywords and the ability to have specific
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programs or campaigns or promotions tied to
a text marketing keyword and therefore providing a
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service and a value add to those
that do text the business. And so
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they are able to set up specific
keywords and users can text into those keywords
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and get a special deal, notification
communication type, from specifically using that keyword
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to a business. It's a great
way to build an opt in list.
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A lot of our businesses as well
are very familiar with it. Call us,
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right, there's call us and they
have the phone number across billboards,
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trucks, website, all of their
channels, and what they're now doing is
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just changing the call us to call
us or text us and with our text
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to landline service that we provide that
phone number and now becomes a phone capable
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obviously, as well as text capable, and so it's a way to build
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in a great opt in list so
that now you can communicate with your users
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across any mobile device. I love
that. So, I mean I kind
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of pulled two pieces of advice from
what you just said. They're at any
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place you know. And so let's
say you're a BBSASS company, in that
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contact us section on your website where
you have phone numbers, maybe just having
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a call to action there like a
beat see brand would have on their are
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billboard, change that and have some
sort of call out that says text us.
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And then number two, what I
heard you saying is give them some
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sort of additional reason, some sort
of exclusive benefit to engaging with you on
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text that they wouldn't get otherwise.
So make it, make it easy,
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show them that, hey, we're
making it easy for you to text us,
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but there's also some additional benefits,
some sort of value at I like
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both of those two pieces of advice. Map, as you and I were
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talking a little bit offline at you
mentioned be tob brands that are using texting
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successfully. They're doing two things.
They're doing text only campaigns. They're building
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those and engaging folks in a text
only campaign, it's exclusively through this channel,
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and then others, or the same
same brands at different times are incorporating
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texting as part of a multi channel
campaign. Can you give us some context
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on to where you guys are recommending? Hey, here's maybe where you should
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think about a text only campaign and
we can talk about maybe some Dowson doontes
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there. And then here's why you
would want to think about a multichannel campaign.
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Let's talk about text only. Give
us some examples of when and how
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you'd want to do this and choose
to go that route with engaging your prospects
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and customers on this texting channel.
Yeah, sure, so a pretty simple
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example for text only campaigns. A
lot of special deals or offers or promotions
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to goods and services you can only
get them through signing up to an opt
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in text marketing list from that business. That's very common that we see,
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whereas, Hey, if you center
for our text offer, you'll get fifteen
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percent off of anything else. You
get two for one. We see that
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quite often in order for those businesses
to actually build up the OPT in list
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and provide text only communication to those
consumers that that want to have a relationship
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with that business. So we see
that quite often. On the other side,
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as a marketer, we've got what
twenty thirty channels at our disposal and
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many of them work for their purpose. We're you know, we're not advocating
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remove other channels in many cases.
What we're saying is leverage texting as part
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of an overall marketing strategy. So
when you're doing things like email campaigns or
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social campaigns or direct mail, as
an example, you can create keywords and
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use those keywords and leverage them across
other channels. We have many of our
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businesses doing print as an example,
and putting text us, you know,
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blank to eighty five on the actual
box or printed material and to build potentially
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a loyalty program as an example,
through text. But they're using other channels
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as the kind of primary channel in
order to interact with that consumer. I
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love those examples. Man a kind
of echoes something we've been thinking about here
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at sweet fish. You know,
one of the things that kind of is
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always a little bit frustrating for us
is that, you know, podcasting can
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be a very intimate medium. People
spend a lot of time listen, listening
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to the host of your show,
but it's not easy all oftentimes for it
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to be super interactive to send back
a question or thought, and so I'll
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you know, a lot of our
customers will set up an email address,
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you know, podcast at, you
know, whatever their domain is, and
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engage with us that way, you
know, offer up potential guests. It's
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something we've been thinking about. How
could we maybe incorporate texting with, you
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know, asking a question or asking
for feedback, those sorts of things.
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So I see it even in just, you know, another digital channel like
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podcasting. I know it's fairly Meta
to bring it up right now in the
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middle of a podcast, but it's
something we're thinking about as well. What
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other advice for beb marketers do you
have here in thinking about you know,
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here's maybe why we should go text
only with a campaign, or maybe how
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we should do a multi channel campaign
and tying those two together. I think
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the print example was a really good
one. For what it's worth, I'm
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offering up connecting podcasting and texting there
too. Any other cool examples you've seen
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from your customer based lately? Matt? Yeah, and I know we didn't
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talk about this before. So in
fact, some of our businesses that actually
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do radio campaigns or podcast campaigns laverage
our platform as but as the main call
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to action. So they basically say, you know, they have a radio
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PODCT or podcast and they say text
x to this number to get either material,
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more information about our podcast, more
information about the speaker, and so
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it's actually pretty common to to leverage
text marketing as a call to action for
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radio. For what it's worth,
there's some also some other interesting use cases
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around this we see a lot of
real estate using text marketing. Obviously there's
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a lot of signage in real estate
and now that many of the listings,
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the MLS, is online, people
can go there and they want to be
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able to text or call real estate
agents and businesses, and so we see
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a lot of use around signage.
You know, when houses for sale,
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they want to be able to text
a number and get access to that real
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estate agent or business and real estate
business wherever they are, whenever they are.
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So we see a lot of that. The the other piece around this
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is that texting is not going away. It's a extremely powerful medium. You
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have a direct connection with a consumer. That's it's very powerful in that everybody
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checks their phone hundreds of times per
day and in general there are zero text
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messages unread before people go to sleep, and so with that kind of communication
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and and power that you have,
it's something that we as marketers cannot ignore.
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We have to leverage text marketing in
a way that is useful to our
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consumers, compliant, but also drives
value to add to them and, frankly,
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to your business as well. I
love that, Matt, as a
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great way to round out the conversation. Some of the advice that I picked
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up from you today. I want
to just recap for listeners a little bit.
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If you are trying to drive people
to texting one make sure you're going
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through the proper compliant procedures to create
that opt in list. Make It easy
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for folks any place you have a
call to action to to call or to
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email. Now test that out and
maybe you know, test the conversion rates.
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How much were we getting through when
it was a click through to this
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landing page or to an email us
button, versus versus text and other digital
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channels or or offline channels, podcasting
or direct mail? Maybe try texting as
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as a call to action there and
see where your response rates go. And
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obviously you know rounding and out with
Hey, the open rate on on texting
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is just ridiculous when you compare it
to email and and other engagement rates on
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other channels. So definitely something we
want to be thinking about. Matt.
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Appreciate what you guys are doing in
supporting folks right now who are in dire
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need of pushing out communications and alerts
and those sorts of things, you know
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outside of the BB space. So
just appreciate that, Matt. If there's
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anything that folks listening to this would
like to go further on ask you a
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follow up question, learn more about
you and your team at easy texting,
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or just stay connected with you to
follow along with some of your content?
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What's the best way for them to
take those next steps? Yeah, first
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off, thanks very much for having
me. Certainly anyone can visit a website.
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It's the letter e the letter Z
textingcom, so easy textingcom. You'll
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find my profile linkedin information out there
as well, and my email address is
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mad at easy texting. Feel free
to se an email if you'd like to
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connect. We provide free trial for
all users, so certainly you can test
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to see if it's going to be
appropriate for your business or not at any
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time for free. Absolutely, Matt, thank you so much for being a
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phenomenal guest on the show. I
hope listeners took some value from this.
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I know I did, as I
was taking notes on some of these ideas
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about incorporating texting. Really appreciate you
being a great guest today. Thanks so
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much for having a really appreciate it. Hey, everybody, logan with sweet
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